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alxmarcond
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From : Clemson
OS : LFS, Win7 b.7000, OS X Leopard 10.5.6
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Subject: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 5:15 pm |
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Barack Obama would make actions such as cable company Comcast's interference with certain kinds of Internet traffic illegal under his administration, an aide said on Thursday.
The aide spoke on background as part of a morning conference call with bloggers and writers to further explain the details of the Democratic presidential candidate's recently unveiled technology policy.
Asked whether Obama would make behavior such as Comcast's blocking of the BitTorrent protocol illegal, the aide said that he would.
The aide said what Comcast is doing to BitTorrent amounts to discrimination against a Web site. On that basis, that action would violate the rules that would be in place under Barack Obama's administration, he said.
When asked to clarify -- whether traffic management would then be illegal, the aide said that that is a different question, but that that would be something administration officials would have to "look at."
Obama's policy document, released Wednesday to coincide with his visit to Google in Mountain View, Ca. states the following:
Barack Obama supports the basic principle that network providers should not be allowed to charge fees to privilege the content or applications of some web sites and Internet applications over others.
This principle will ensure that the new competitors, especially small or non-profit speakers, have the same opportunity as incumbents to innovate on the Internet and to reach large audiences.
"What I find compelling about the senator's proposal is that it attempts to address the problem in a way that could be effectively enforced," said Stanford Law School Professor Larry Lessig during the conference call.
Lessig's thrown his support behind Obama after declaring Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's approach to policy making unacceptable.
The professor noted that Obama's adopted former Republican FCC Chairman Michael Powell's principles for ensuring Net Neutrality, but has added a twist.
"Senator Obama has added a requirement that any charges not be discrimminatory," he said. "You can't say: Google, were going to charge you this, Yahoo, we're going to charge you that. Rather than regulations that require the regulators to "look under the hood, this is a regulation that looks to the contracts that parties have entered into, thereby ... allowing the FCC to do its job to ensure a neutral and open Internet."
The Associated Press recently conducted tests to verify several of Comcast customers' claims that the cable and high speed Internet service provider is discriminating against BitTorrent Internet traffic.
The AP found that it did, as did tests performed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Comcast, for its part, denies that it is discriminating. Instead, its spokespeople have said that the company is managing its traffic to ensure the optimal experience for its users. Nevertheless, the news has sparked off a lawsuit in California, as well as a call on Wednesday for a rulemaking at the FCC from Silicon Valley start-up Vuze, which uses BitTorrent to distribute high definition television programming on the Web. Vuze wants the FCC to establish some new rules concerning the way telecom companies manage their networks.
Obama's staff spoke on background, but others who spoke on the record during the call were Lessig, Beth Noveck of New York Law School and Julius Genachowski, co-founder and managing director of Rock Creek Ventures and former chief counsel to Federal Communications Commission Chairman Reed Hundt.
Obama's policy staff also emphasized that their candidate's tech policy platform is a integral theme that dovetails with the "central thrust" of his candidacy, which is to turn the current model of governing on its head by putting some of the decision-making processes of governing back into the hands of citizens.
An integral part of that process is making as much government data available in machine-readable formats to people as possible. Though it sounds prosaic, the overarching goal is to create a kind of "open source" government, of which the work of the Sunlight Foundation is an example.
One example of how this might work is a pilot project spearheaded by NYLS' Noveck, who helped to create the US Patent and Trademark Office' Peer to Patent Project. The project solicits contributions from the wider community for information relevant to a select group of patent applications. The goal is to leverage the knowledge of experts in the wider community to prevent patent office examiners from granting monopolies on ideas that are already obvious.
"We can't rely on the government for all of the expertise and solutions," Noveck said. "What's also really exciting about [Obama's] plan is that it articulates a tremendous level of respect for the American people by asking them to help government make better decisions."
The obvious subtext of the conference call: Obama's technology platform is an enabling mechanism for his call for an open and transparent government "for the people" while rival Clinton's camp offers a policy framework that is more of the same.
Clinton is currently under attack by her rivals and Republicans for the secrecy surrounding the records from her husband's administration. They are under wraps at the Clinton presidential library in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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GoSco
Administrator
From : England
OS : Leopard 10.5.6
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 5:56 pm |
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I dont use torrents or limewire. I thought they are already illegal, but it would be fair if he did.
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SbuxBlaze
Founder
From : Southern California
OS : Win 8 x64, Android 4.0
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 6:04 pm |
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- GoSco wrote:
- I dont use torrents or limewire. I thought they are already illegal, but it would be fair if he did.
he'd make interference illegal. Vote for Obama!!
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Lbroskee
Veteran Member
From : Florida
OS : Mac OS X Leopard
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 6:17 pm |
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so w8 he would make it so torrent users are safe, like some1 we both know?
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SbuxBlaze
Founder
From : Southern California
OS : Win 8 x64, Android 4.0
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 6:34 pm |
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- Lbroskee wrote:
- so w8 he would make it so torrent users are safe, like some1 we both know?
Yes like someone I know
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Lbroskee
Veteran Member
From : Florida
OS : Mac OS X Leopard
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal April 22nd 2008, 6:37 pm |
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oooo. i want obama!!
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Hibbsi
Regular Visitor
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 2nd 2008, 7:08 pm |
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Finally somebody is bringing that up that may actually be able to do something about it! I have Comcast, and the throttling is obnoxiously obvious... it's like they're saying, "This is wrong and there's no way this could just be a connection problem, but you can't do squat about it."
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SbuxBlaze
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From : Southern California
OS : Win 8 x64, Android 4.0
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 2nd 2008, 7:14 pm |
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- Hibbsi wrote:
- Finally somebody is bringing that up that may actually be able to do something about it!
I have Comcast, and the throttling is obnoxiously obvious... it's like they're saying, "This is wrong and there's no way this could just be a connection problem, but you can't do squat about it." thank god verizon doesnt do such things lol
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TomTom
I'm New
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 2nd 2008, 7:39 pm |
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I just started using torrents. I used limewire over 2 years ago but stopped because I was ALWAYS hit up with viruses so I just stopped with it and used direct downloads instead.
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SbuxBlaze
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From : Southern California
OS : Win 8 x64, Android 4.0
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 2nd 2008, 7:44 pm |
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- TomTom wrote:
- I just started using torrents. I used limewire over 2 years ago but stopped because I was ALWAYS hit up with viruses so I just stopped with it and used direct downloads instead.
surprisingly enough I never (or at least i think LOL) got a virus from limewire. Although ive seen some files that were like 500 or 30KB and they were an exe file with a songs name.
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timbob
Moderator
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 3rd 2008, 4:48 am |
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Boo to this news.
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alxmarcond
Community Leader
From : Clemson
OS : LFS, Win7 b.7000, OS X Leopard 10.5.6
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 3rd 2008, 8:06 am |
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you think that Obama's wrong in this timbob?
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timbob
Moderator
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 3rd 2008, 2:06 pm |
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I do indeed, but that is my personal opinion, don't want to go into what i use torrents for
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alxmarcond
Community Leader
From : Clemson
OS : LFS, Win7 b.7000, OS X Leopard 10.5.6
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Subject: Re: Obama would make Comcast BitTorrent interference illegal May 3rd 2008, 2:13 pm |
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^_^ understandable. Amazing mostly what i use torrents for are legitamit things. Bellsouth also has started tampering with my PPPoE settings, and im getting extremely annoyed.
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